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Unsealed - Spiritual beings and physical craft - if angels/demons are behind the UFO phenomenon, how would you reconcile this? Video is about to be released from a helicopter carrying a landed/crashed UFO - many more people will begin to process this reality and will not take it well. We need to talk about this!



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Welcome into the podcast of wings of the eagle that we call unsealed uh it's a great pleasure to be with you today great pleasure to see you all please say hello if you're watching right now on youtube x or facebook uh just say hi if you have any questions comments or whatever else please just leave it wherever you're watching just go ahead and type it in do my best to address it live and um even if it's not I'll try to get back to you when possible. Hello, Brother Mokul is out there. Amen. Bondservant, always out there. Thank you so much. So again, please share this if you can. It's a great help, especially on the YouTube channel of Wings of the Eagle. If you're not subscribed and you don't get notifications for that channel specifically, please do so today. It's a great help. It's Just better if you do that, okay? It's a wider reach. More people will see it. It's a very small, teeny-tiny amount that's monetized about it. It's helpful in that way. But the point is, go ahead and do that. And you can become a member on YouTube or X. Just go ahead to my profile on X, Mantei Ford, M-A-N-T-E-I Ford. And right under my info, you'll see the option to subscribe. Also, again, on the YouTube channel for Wings of the Eagle, become a subscriber there immediately. Just helps. Just helps. And sharing is caring. We love that the most. Okay? So please do that. Thank you very much. I put a breaking news... Intro here today as well, because it is kind of I've ever since yesterday afternoon or last night when the info came out and there are other things in the world. Believe me, I understand. I totally get it. OK, I really, really do get it. I'm watchful of many things and care about. many things um and of course we have uh israeli you know hamas crazy um whatever what they're calling a ceasefire treaty deal that looks terrible and we're a new president of course coming in on monday And the old one just gave his farewell speech. But then there's this thing that happened last night. My brain has been absolutely jumping everywhere on just like plugged in, whatever firing away. Um, Hey madam Rex, my buddy research extraordinaire person. Um, But ever since this came out last night, I was just very activated, if you will. And so I think you should know. The audience that I have here is diverse, right? So many of you may already know this, or some have no idea what I'm talking about. So I'm trying to thread that needle always here on Unsealed, OK? The Christian world and the prophecy world versus the UFO world do not always get together. In fact, they don't even know each other exists half the time and are very dismissive of each other. So it's part of what I'm trying to do here is talk to us all as adults and have some conversations that are needed no matter what we happen to believe about this or that. And this is the news that came out last night. News Nation, Ross Coulthart, specifically, who's been a hero basically the past couple of years. who actually has courage, actually is doing investigative journalism, which is so not happening in the world anymore. But he's on top of it, and he is now releasing, as he says, after two years of waiting, this is now the time for a... The word whistleblower gets thrown around way too much, way too much. The whistleblower is a legal term. You have to be exposing some kind of wrongdoing or illegal activity to be a whistleblower. Now, it doesn't mean you can't be revealing something that is a secret, but not illegal, whatever. But this guy actually fits the definition, I believe, because he's admitting that the program that he is admitting to have participated in is illegal. So there's that. What is it? UAP whistleblower says UFO retrieval program exists and he was part of it. He worked as a contractor for a quote secret organization. He believes his name is Jake Barber. Jake Barber believes he has recovered craft of non-human origin. And when it says he means he personally, he's a helicopter pilot. And as part of this mission with this group, this contractor for the government, he, he was in the air force at one time. I'm, I'm guessing he wasn't at this point since he was contracting, but whatever. We'll find all that out on Saturday. But he personally flew the helicopter that, according to the account, was involved in the recovery of off-Earth, off-world, alien, whatever you want to call it, non-human technology. They found a craft, and he picked it up in his helicopter, and there's video. video will be released of his helicopter or a helicopter, I assume it's his, picking up, carrying or something this craft away, taking it off of the ground and taking it away. Video. That's never happened before that I know of. Never even heard a claim about that. And so that's what he's going to testify to testify, give on camera admissions. Not only his testimony and his word, his credentials are vetted already. He usually says he is and all that stuff. So it's tough to dismiss it. You got video. Well, tough to dismiss that. And you got apparently three others who either were on the team with him or can vouch for him somehow. They're called high-level military. How do they put it here? High-level military veterans are backing up Barber's story and will go on the record and on camera also on Saturday. so on Saturday you will see a video of a purported UFO that has landed or crashed or whatever being picked up by a helicopter in a secret illegal program piloted by this man who you'll be meeting Mr. Barber and you'll get confirmation apparently from three others backing up his story this is high level military veterans that probably means special forces and And basically, if there are secret military contracts through illegal special access programs and they need people flying helicopters and military types to carry out these missions, then you would think they would be full and stacked with special forces people. Yeah. So that's what it looks like, guys. That's major. And it also seems like this is very intentionally – it is intentionally timed. Ross said this. Yes, it's coinciding with right before the new president takes office because – Well, to put it on his front burner, basically, to get the maximum impact of the news cycle of people being aware. And so he doesn't ignore his words and promises and the – I hate to say evidence, but the – What's actually happening and not to get distracted into something else, even though they might be very worthwhile causes that the fact of the matter is, if if any human in this world. I mean, seriously, I can't imagine that someone would happen on this information and this video and this. Apparently, this is not the only one either. Apparently, there will be more and more and more to come. And so, yes, it's deliberately timed, so Mr. Trump is bombarded with this reality. And I can't imagine that, I don't care what priorities you have, this has got to be at the top, doesn't it? No matter what you believe, no matter what you thought beforehand, if you see a video and you know this is real now, everything is going to be restacked in your priorities, even if you run the country. Doesn't it? Especially if you run the country that's doing illegal programs around the Constitution, around your Congress, the Congress of the people, around you, executive, chief executive. Even though they're in your executive branch and yet you don't know about it, this is a major problem. And frankly... that is the button I believe they're trying to push with donald trump is appealing to his power or his sense of power and his sense of control wait a minute these guys work for me how could I not know that I need to know everything so appeal to that I agree let's do that okay um So that's what has come out since last night, and what it leads me to now maybe with you talk about for a few minutes here and for the start of many, many, many minutes worth or hours and hours is this figuring this darn thing out. I know Taryn feels that way, and I certainly do, and maybe you watching as well. I know some of you do. it's not acceptable. The status quo is not okay. Whatever it is, it's no more mystery. It's time for revelation, right? It's time for, that's when we say disclosure or just tell the darn truth and let us know what's happening. Frankly, not a lot of people do know It seems even if you're recovering this stuff from the California or New Mexico desert, wherever this footage is going to be from. It's just a piece of the puzzle. We want the whole – let's figure this thing out because it's really, really important. And so many of – when I say us, I mean Christians, but in all quarters, whether you're a super committed believer and you watch Wings of the Eagle podcast or you just happen to work in the government or you work in a company or – You're just going about your day-to-day life, and you happen to go to a church that's a Christian church. All of those people. All of us together at one point or another, or maybe at some level, have all heard, maybe it's Tucker Carlson saying this or whatever, or other folks. It's the idea that this, whatever this, we as Christians, the Bible teaches non-human intelligence. Okay, that's the world's term, obviously. But of course, it's in there. God is a non-human intelligence. He came to earth, became a human in Jesus Christ. Amen. But he's also above humanity, and he created us in his image, that whole thing, right? And then angels and fallen angels and demons and spirits, those are all non-humans. That God created and they have intelligence and they can think for themselves and they make their own choice. They have free will. Those are at least most of them do. Maybe not the four living creatures around the throne, that whole situation. But the point is they're intelligent and they're not human. So that's in the Bible. And if you don't think that's in your Bible, go read it. Go read some more because you haven't done it. That's what we said last week. Just make this the year to actually read the Bible because there's a lot of stuff in there that you probably don't know or weren't taught about and you skimmed over. Well, we can't skim it over anymore. um so yes there are non-human intelligences in the bible but many of us def whether I think it's kind of defaulting I think it's kind of being lazy a little bit lazy even if it ends up being true to assume that uh an intelligence is an angel or a demon is lazy it doesn't mean it's intellectually lazy because we don't know that um It might be true, though. It might be partially true. And by the way, you don't have to be an angel to be on God's side. You don't have to be a demon to be on the devil's side, right? You can be very human, last time I checked, and be one of God's children or one of the, you know, in the kingdom of darkness. And all the great evil is all... The humans being evil is the issue. Evil spirits or fallen angels are really just an annoyance. Right? I mean, God allows it. He allows them to be around at some level or some permission for now, but it's only temporary. The real issue is human souls. The real issue is... You know, are you with God or the devil? Anyway, so the point is, one of the questions is spiritual beings. Well, if they're spiritual beings, a lot of you say that. A lot of you think that. A lot of you say, well, these are not, you know, fleshly. And that's fine. They might not be. But to say something is a spiritual being and it's all a delusion or a deception and UFOs actually are just illusions in the sky or something by demons. I've heard that. I don't believe it, but I heard that. Or they're all angels like the Chris Bledsoe version and everything's good and shiny and light and nothing bad could possibly be from a UFO. That's, I think, silly as well. You're not thinking. So what if you have, if they're spiritual beings, what do they need with physical craft? Because if we have crashed things, if we have landed, I don't care how it got there or shot down, it's a physical thing. You have a thing in a, now we pick it up with a helicopter and we're going to see that. And you take it to a, and obviously it's not yours. You're not shooting your own stuff down. You're not flying out with secret illegal programs to get your own weapons or your own vehicles, right? It's not Americans. It's not America. It's not China or Russia. Now, this would be the type of thing if it was China or Russia in a foreign technology exploitation, as we call it. Yeah, this is a thing that you do. Oh, man, we got this super high-tech thing that went down in North Korea or something. We got to send a team in there and get it. It's Chinese stuff. Okay, fine. This is on our territory. Nobody's flying over our territory. except some of these mysteries mysterious things so anyway if we have a physical object I call it a craft or call it whatever you want it's something metallic or it's something there it's not a spiritual being it's a piece of something hardware um how do we reconcile that how do you reconcile that If you believe these UFOs are angels and demons, and yet we have a physical craft, how do you reconcile that? Because they're not consistent. I can understand if it's a physical, I mean, it's a spiritual thing. It's a shining light in the sky, and they're just trying to trick you, and UFOs are really not even real. They're just kind of like put theirs to, you know, like a miracle, right? That's what we hear, a false sign or wonder. That's not a real, okay, I hear that, but how could that be a physical thing? If it's a delusion or a consciousness connection or whatever, you would need it to be a physical thing. And that's what a lot of people have come to believe, that they're just not physical at all. And if it's an angel or a demon, they're doing their thing, and they appear and they disappear, and that's because they're spirits. And it's not because they're physical things. They don't have flying eggs to land in the desert and recover with a helicopter. But yet, if that's true... And frankly, this has been the, the, the testimony of many, many since the nineteen forties. And we basically, as a country, as a, as a whole, as an Asian, we ignored and ridiculed them. And it's not a hundred percent agreement, every testimony about it, but it's been widely the same story. And we're seeing, potentially, that all that was true. Or that type of thing. Not every, maybe, account you've heard. But That type of thing actually did happen. You know, Phil Corso, in his book before he died, he said, yeah, I was in the army and we got the Roswell stuff. And yeah, it was not human. And we endeavored to reverse engineer it, but it was super hard. And we actually learned things. Then we made things because of what we found from it and all that stuff. So that's been the story right all along. And there was kind of a shadow government created to handle all that, whether it's Department of Energy or in the Pentagon and secret access programs, special access programs, or whatever. They had to hide it. They had to, even if it's in plain sight, they had to hide it. They had to make sure billions and hundreds of billions and who knows how many dollars or all, as much as they need, without Congress knowing about it, um classified up to the to the heavens so no one could see it and that seems to be exactly what we're exactly where we're at so how do we reconcile that I agree bondservant says if it is physical craft that doesn't make sense if it's uh spiritual yeah that's what I that's my point exactly So there's another level in there. Again, you don't want to dismiss anything out of hand, right? Because there's ways, there's always a way, but there might be an intermediary, right? Or there might be a step that we're missing. Maybe it's not as simple as some other species from somewhere else in the galaxy or the universe decided to pay us a visit in the The more we learn about this, and Adam Rex can affirm this, the more we learn, the farther back it goes. And all these, you know, the folks that we're talking now, whether it be Carl Nell or David Grush or others, are amazing. pretty unanimous when they're saying it's not a new thing it didn't just start it didn't just start with the nine you know the the two thousands that we see the videos of it didn't just start in the eighties with you know the cold war didn't just start with the nuclear age in the forties it was before that And folks have said at least to the late eighteen hundreds, there was no nuclear weapons in eighteen hundreds. There was no Cold War. There was no World War One even. No one was destroying the planet, no global warming or whatever, climate change, none of that. And yet they were wherever they are or still here. Marisol. Hey, Marisol. She says humans are physical, physically and spiritually at the same time. Oh, sure. In one, in a person, but I don't, as a physical person, I need a physical car. That's what we're talking about. The car, the car is not spiritual. I can crash it or leave it for someone else to tow away. Right. So I might be a certain thing. But again, if you're talking about a spiritual and a physical, that's not an angel, is it? That's not what you think. That's not a demon. A demon doesn't have a body, for example. Right? So it doesn't really make sense. It doesn't go together. If it's a spiritual entity, why would you need a physical craft to fly around in? Forget the why do you need it. The point is, if it is just a spiritual issue or spiritual trick or an angel and a demon doing UFOs, then there is no way that a physical craft is left behind. Right? Right? They don't even, what kind of case could you make for them being able to, there's no example in the Bible, certainly that, or any scripture that I know of. It all has to do with, as far as angels, fallen angels, demons, all that, all has to do with humans. Whether they're talking to a human, appearing to a human, trying to get inside a human, Or even the fallen angels, forgive that last statement, I mean, they're actually copulating, okay, making babies with human women. So there's that, but it's all centered around people, not things. So there's no account or anything of... It just doesn't make sense to me at all. So... Okay, Marisol, do you know what I mean? So it's about the car, not about me. About my car. I left my car. Or my gun. Or my iPad. Right? Or my book. My coffee mug. So it's not me, but it's something maybe I use, but it can't be a spiritual phenomenon if it's a physical thing left behind, right? Okay. Anyway, so that's what we got to reconcile. I think we're going to be forced to deal with that. Hello to you, Mr. Pierce, sir. Welcome, brother. Feel free to chime in, guys, no matter where you're watching or when this is. If you're on Facebook, YouTube, or X, again, please subscribe on X or YouTube. That would be extremely helpful. Okay, one other thing I just wanted to get at, and this is in the same vein, but again, watch yourself. You can wait until it comes out on socials or whatever, but if you can spare the time on Saturday, I think it would be worthwhile to see what... Um, Mr. Barber has to say, um, And the summary of it is just what News Nation put out. It says, other whistleblowers, including Lou Elizondo and David Grush, have alleged a secret government UFO program exists, but Barber says he knows it's true because he's a part of it. So that's the newness. That's the never heard that before. That's the, you know, yeah, I did it. I was in it. Maybe I still am in it. That's what I'm blowing the whistle on, and it's illegal. And I picked up a thing, and I got a video of it. Like, this is all... Moving the bar. And, okay, one last thing. Second to last thing is it has been orchestrated. When I say that, it's not insidious. It's a plan of... this stuff has got to come out, whether it be Ross Coulthard, other people who are looking into it and interviewing folks who are coming out and these whistleblower, these internal guys are like, what do we do? We got to, how do we tell the world basically, how do we get this out there and not endanger anyone on endanger me as a, you know, I swore myself to secrecy or my team or right. And like, you know, I'm a patriotic American. I don't want to get anyone in trouble. I don't want to hurt my country, all that stuff. Up till now, everyone's been trying to play by the rules. But as of last year, the end of last year, you had the NDAA didn't pass. You have the, oh my gosh, there were three things. There's no select committee now. The things just aren't, The whistleblowers that are promised to come forward, they're not being allowed to. They're being stymied. The Congress is listening to the CIA and the Pentagon to back down. Oh, Arrow is blatantly lying. Arrow is blatantly lying. They're saying they haven't received testimony of this or that or they have no evidence of this or that. We know that they're lying. That happened a couple months ago, and then this latest hearing that I happened to be there for in November I thought would be historic some kind of way, and it was, maybe in a bad way, in that the Congress itself, the ones who maybe we thought were doing the right things, maybe aren't. And so this is a problem. And because of all that, everyone involved is like, well, You know, we tried to – I sat on this for two years. Now it's time to go. Sat on this. I tried to go to the right channels and go through the inspector general. By the way, David Gross went to two inspector generals, inspectors general, and haven't heard a peep from either of them. One of them retired without saying anything. What the heck is going on? This is not okay, and it's not normal. So, okay, then, if you're not going to do it the legal way, we're going to do it our way, right? It's got to come out. And so that's what we're seeing. That's why it's being timed and orchestrated in that way. Again, not an insidious or evil way or, oh, it's a psyop. No, it's not a psyop. It's to get it out in the most effective way. Tell what you know. Tell the world. And if the official channels won't do it, then we've got to make them do it. And that's, I think, where we're at. And that final piece is the Jeremy Corbell rant that his new material is exposing right now. I'm so thankful for him that he's willing to get these things out there and show the world. If it wasn't for him and Lou Elizondo, basically... we wouldn't have any of this you know this whole train wouldn't have left the station I don't think so we should be very thankful no matter what we think of these people um for what they're doing anyway uh I briefly caught something about a UFO show on cable. What do you know of that? Oh, there's a bunch of show. I don't know which one. There's a bunch of there's shows, documentaries, you know, short form, long form. There's a bunch. The one I just mentioned is Jeremy Corbell. It's free on Tubi. It's a smart TV app or an app on your phone or tablet. You can watch it there called UFO Revolution, I think it's called. Anyway. Can't wait to watch Saturday with Nephew Judah who'll be here. Hey, cool. That'll be neat. It's always good to get the young people's opinions and brains flowing on that too, right? That's awesome. John has a couple questions. Yes, sir. Go, go, go. Bond servant. That congressman, I can't recall his name, taken off the committee. Oh, Turner. Turner or Rogers? I can never remember. They're both Mike. Okay. I think it's Rogers. He was removed by Speaker Johnson, was it yesterday or the day before? Which in itself is a very, very strange maneuver. Where is it? turner turner turner mike turner uh he was literally fired basically from being head of the uh house intel committee which is a big deal they're the ones who are supposed to know all the secret programs from the cia and the nsa and all the dia and all that stuff yep between the it's the security the or the um um Intelligence, community, they call it community because there's so many darn many of them, agencies. That and the Pentagon, right? The intelligence and the Pentagon, we have direct oversight. That's why there should be no secret programs, none, zero, zip. The head of the intel in the House and Senate and the head of the armed services in the House and Senate and four others have to know every program. It should be the whole Congress, honestly, but gang of eight, it's called, right? Those eight senators and congresspeople must, must, legally, constitutionally, you must tell them every program and every detail, how much money is going and what it's for and what the name of it is, all that stuff. But we know that's not happening. So that's why I say we're in deep, deep doo-doo. Anyway. um to be okay john yes uh asking demons need humanoid bodies to possess where and how is this happening I would take issue with your word humanoid it's humans uh they desire to possess a human yes um That's what the Lord said. If they're not, they're walking around this dry places and torture. Is that Sheol or some other place where dead spirits without bodies go? But yes, their desire certainly is to inhabit a human body. Humanoid? Why do you say that? And is that even right? What's a humanoid? Two arms, two legs, walks upright. Animals can do that. I don't know. Well, they can possess animals. Well, Jesus sent them into an animal. We don't know if they can do that themselves. But demons can possess people right now. Nothing needed. Same as two thousand years ago and before that. Three thousand years ago, four thousand years ago, the flood of Noah's time. Right. After the Nephilim are killed, their spirits weren't allowed to go to where everyone else goes because they weren't supposed to be created to begin with. But their spirits were cursed by God to stay on the earth and always desire to be inside another body, a human body. And so that's what we see in the New Testament, where Jesus is casting out demons and the apostles, the disciples, the Christians to this day. especially if you go to other, the Eastern countries and the, and our brother from India, if he's still here, he can tell you that's all still going on. No UFOs needed. They're just on the earth and they'll, they're not unlimited either. There's not millions of demons, but yes, that's what they desire. Sure. So it's happening. It potentially anywhere all the time. That's my answer to that. and nothing to do with UFOs. Humanoid is what many... Hey, John. Hey, he's leaping onto different... You're possessing different social media channels. I'm sorry. That's stupid. Humanoid is what many people report with the greys, et cetera. Humanoid-like. Ah, okay. Now we're cooking a little bit. Madam Rex is asking the same type of thing, I believe. Could a demon possess a non-human biologic? Okay. That's an open question to me. It's just my opinion, obviously. I don't think so. Although, again, you have the cast us into the swine incident. Why couldn't they do that themselves is my question. Why do they need to be sent there by Jesus? Yeah. Again, I wouldn't bet any money on it, but my opinion is they could not. They have to be human beings. That's my biblical answer. Doesn't mean it's right, because this is weird territory right now. I just don't think so. And I don't think the demons would want that. I don't think they desire that. I think they – remember because they used to be – I think this is like the core secret, the core issue of demons and possession is the reason they want – and God keeps them in this endless cycle. The reason why they want to possess humans is because they were humans. No matter what you think of the Nephilim, okay, they were the offspring of the fallen angels, angels who sinned, who left their first estate, who left heaven an hour locked up in chains and can't do anything until the day of the Lord. And they were just finally judged and sent to the lake of fire or whatever you want to believe about that. Point is, they were human beings, very large ones, right? Giants, maybe intellectual giants as well, perhaps. um they're the result of some type of sexual union now is it the old old-fashioned way of sexual union or was there some type of genetic splicing or something I don't know I don't know but the point is they were humans and that's why they want to be a human again um So I don't think they want to be in anything else, even if they could. That's my opinion. So could they? I guess it's possible, but if I had to say one or the other, I would say no right now. There are plenty of anecdotes about demons inhabiting objects too. I don't know if that's true. So now this is like demonology class. There are accounts of that type of thing, but it's not Bible. It's not scripture at all. It's more modern after the New Testament. So it's tricky ground. It's slippery slope for sure. There's other things like You know, things we call demons like poltergeist. Excuse me. There's good research by Christians and by exorcists, especially there's one who's very active on social media right now who's a Catholic priest who says that his vast experience in this has taught him that poltergeists are not demons. that poltergeist activity, things, objects, things moving around, things of that nature could or likely in his experience are actually from people in that location, usually a home, right? So if a child or someone else who's having, who is traumatized or having some extreme mental issues, that that is actually a power or an ability whether they know it or not, from that trauma and from that person that is traumatized, that creates and has the ability to do those types of things. So strictly speaking, that would not be, in his view, that would not be demonic. And that makes sense to me. And poltergeists often occur around adolescence. That's my understanding as well. And that's what this brother who I'm referring to was getting at. Humans might be their ideal, yet perhaps they can inhabit other things slash animals. I'm personally inclined to think they asked Jesus to go into the swine, not because they couldn't go on their own, but because Jesus was there and they couldn't do anything without asking his permission at that point, just my opinion. Well, they could be sent to the holding chamber to be judged with their dads. That's what would have happened, right? They said, please don't send us there. Send us to those pigs instead. So they were at his mercy for sure, and he was merciful. Believe it or not, okay, yes, even to demons, Jesus was merciful. I don't think, I mean, again, just from my understanding of this, I don't think demons can leave a person once they're in them. I don't think they want to, and I don't think they can. like that's the goal their home in their view right that jesus said the home is swept and you get seven evil one you could have multiple demons in one person however that works um but that's the thing and I don't think they can leave they definitely don't want to because that's again that's like the end goal um so could you agree to if it was possible and I don't think it is personally again just my opinion but even if it is could you be assigned could you volunteer to somehow go into a being with no soul uh like that's not alive just some kind of life form or an animal or a inanimate object basically like a let's say a gray technically would if it's a creation if it's some actual like bio biological android or something where there's it's just a creation like a technology and then a spirit would come in and animate it like that would they agree if they could do that would they agree to do that with the with the intention of from there possessing a person maybe I would say that would be the best answer if that was possible, that they would do it if they could get to their goal. Otherwise, why do all that? There's plenty of people to possess. That's like, right? If that's the goal, then that's it. Dr. Heiser in his Hormone book says the Nephilim also had children. Yes. Do you think their offspring's souls became demons? No. No. Because that's a human having a baby with a human. But their dad's lack of a better word, their dad's DNA are still part of that bloodline. Now that is an interesting thread that I'm trying to find out about right now. Um, your family history, so to speak. Okay. Now that's interesting to me. Yes, but no, they're not demons after the actual Nephilim who were killed. So what are people seeing when they report seeing the greys? Extraterrestrial or interdimensional? Well, that's a question. Your question there is from origin. Where are they from is one question. What is a grey is another question. What are they seeing is one thing. Where they come from is another thing. You know, I'm not trying to be difficult, John. I'm just, I'm saying there's two questions there. So it's from many different, going back to Phil Corso and old school researchers, it seems like there's a good case to be made. Whitley Strieber, I mean, you know, modern folks as well. The whole gray... whatever that is, um, seems to be, there's a good case. You can make that. They are not actual life forms that they are, um, artificially made. They're like technology or, um, like, uh, what we would consider a robot, even if they're made of flesh and blood tissue, potentially. Okay. I mean, that's my view at this time. Um, And then where they come from, again, depends who created them. I'll get to you in a second there, T-Rex. Sponsor, no wonder Jesus tells us these things can't come out unless by prayer and fasting. Some of them, right? Yeah, this kind can't come out. It's funny, too, that what you're quoting, that scripture, I believe that word and fasting is not in the manuscripts. Or the oldest ones. So some versions have that in there and some don't. So the oldest manuscripts, the closest to the originals that we have found, don't say fasting. I don't know what that means, but other than don't come out except by prayer. So you just using the name of Jesus saying get out of this person may not work on the real strong guys. You have to consult the Father and have some extra prayer going on there. Nasser Al-Qahtani, great brother from Saudi Arabia. Right, if we're talking about the same guy. Nasser thinks the swine were being raised to be sacrificed to Zeus. Yeah, that's him. Be sacrificed to Zeus and thus the demons ruin the sacrificial animals being raised up for false worship. In other words, that's why Jesus permitted it? To get a little zinger in to some false god worship? That's possible. That's possible. And also being merciful, I think. I don't think the demons care what these pigs are going to be used for because they want out. To me, that's the... the kicker or the you know verification that they don't want to be there they immediately kill themselves get me out of this pig Bonserver says, have you wondered, by the way, I always introduce these comments because I do have this on audio on Spotify and your podcasting platforms on audio. So we do get a couple of folks listening every week. I just want to, for their benefit, that's why I do that. Bonserver says, have you wondered, and plus I'm an old radio guy, so it's a habit. Have you wondered about cloning from cells they pick up from downed craft? All right, hang on a second. Madam Rex following up. Only Gentiles raise swine in that area. Well, yeah, Hebrews were not. They weren't even permitted to, right? Israel? Yeah, that's the Gerasenes or across the river to the Gentile areas. That's where that whole incident happened with the pigs, sure. Yeah, no doubt. It's a very good thought. Very possible that that's what they were there for. yeah okay um bondservant have you wondered about cloning from cells they pick up from down craft no I haven't I don't I wouldn't I don't know cells of what of the of like a dead body Or do you mean the craft itself? Are they made of cells? Some of them seem to be some testimony would seem to be almost alive or they need a living soul of some kind to operate them or some kind of living being, some kind of brain. like to have a direct brain connection to fly them. That's been, again, one of these weird sci-fi things that may actually end up being true. No, I have not. I assume you mean from bodies or whatever, the greys you're talking about. Yes, dead body or if crafts are biological, for example, which we just said. No, that's a good thing. I mean, that could be an aspect to it. Again, just going on the lore, which may or may not be totally true, Um, but the Lord does say there, there have been, and frankly, David Grush said this, um, that there were dead pilots of things that have were brought down or crashed or whatever landed or crashed as again, that's a Grushism landed or crashed. Um, So, yes, there would potentially be dead bodies around. And there's stories, right? What is it? Richard Nixon allegedly was taken to see a dead body under a military base, Florida, maybe. Anyways, there's stories, but we'll see. I don't know. Are there cells in these things that you can study? Once they die and the brain shuts off, what happens to the body? I don't know. Never really thought about it. Hello, and welcome. Yeah, we're just about to wrap up here. Figures, right? Didn't get a notification. 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Luanne go back and listen yeah thank you and do we do thank you sister Luanne you're the best um last I will say is I don't know about possessed dolls etc however been in locations which seemed infested houses etc me too look areas definitely there's just there's a like a spiritual fog or this is good as I could describe it um So what that is exactly to me is an open question. Like, I hear you, but what is that? But I mean, possessed doll, again, people say that that's true. People say there's videos of dolls making noises by themselves and whatever. Is that a demon? Is that a person somehow manipulating that? Is it the, you know, these hosts are drifting and they're doing it? I don't know. Um... But yeah, places certainly definitely have feel, you know, you can sense things that are, there's an evil there. Yeah. Whether that means a demon or not, I don't know. I wish I did know. okay all right friends uh that's pretty much where I wanted to to bring this up so I really love the convos here and we that's why I'm doing it um to start the conversation um among people who care right now because a lot more people I think are going to start caring very soon and if um and if the president the new president actually does something with this and um then the whole world is going to pay attention. So buckle up, okay? Let's hope he does. That's the reason why we had to do this and the more preparation. I think that's what, frankly, as Christians, this is what the Lord is trying to always tell us beforehand what's coming, even if we don't get it or even if we don't like it, to be useful to him, right? Okay. I definitely think it's possible for non-human biologics to be possessed. Possible, not certain at all. Yeah, it's an open question for sure. Anyway, guys, love you all so much. Thank you for participating. Please do share this. Again, YouTube is the best place to like, share, hit that bell, get notified, all that stuff, and become a member that would support the ministry here that we have, this podcast. I want to do it forever, but how the world is, you can't do it without support. financial and emotional, and just having a team. And you guys are, especially those who keep chiming in all the time, you're definitely my team here. So I'm very, very thankful for you. John Pierce, see you Saturday. All right, then. Rock on, John. Maybe I'll go on again Saturday when this stuff hits the fan. um on news news nation and we'll see what's going on then all right friends uh till next time this is pastor manti you will I'm just your brother I'm just a guy christopher here um but I do happen to have an end time church service coming up on monday night be a part of that as well till next time wings of the eagle stay tuned watch this space till next time bye

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